All I can say is that ignorance loves company....

I would never use that type of language here.My mother would kill me.I would hope I have betters than that.Just having a little fun.

Seriously I am praying for you now, you have got to be a Tea Party supporter for connecting Obama with a public forum discussion. And I never made any accusations about Craft in the beginning, I said let the courts decide and then the media made it a circus. And yet again you are concluding that I have sins without looking at your own faults, again, sitting in judgement. Don't play the bible game with me. If you can't defend a subject in a secular way, what makes you think you can in a theological one?

cwallin, good for you ha ha.

cwallin - We all have our moments and that sure sounds like one! lol I doubt you would use that language here =)

I hit my thumb with a hammer one time and dropped the mother of all F bombs.

Good gravy, you sound like Obama, 8 arms with 8 fingers all pointing the blame at everyone except yourself.

I do believe you're one of the people that made the false claims about Mrs Craft. I'm mighty glad that in the end, I only have to answer for my sins and not yours.

I do feel sorry for your husband and children, poor things.....

I could care less really, F bomb is only a curse word in certain contexts, profanity is only in the observer and apparently you are in my brain and know every concept I am trying to state. There was nothing vile about my language, it doesn't even fall under vain in a theological sense. But hey, there you sit high and mighty passing judgement which also are not supposed to do if you would read the whole bible and not just the parts you pick and choose to make you look like a superior Christian to people in a forum. By the way, since we are on profanity, lets try and find profanity in the bible. How about you pull out a septuagent in Greek and translate it yourself without using your Baptists King James version (generalizing), because you can find John the Baptists saying Bas....(fatherless child) and Christ on the Mountain telling every not to hush, but a strongly worded shutup which today can be translated close to profanity. But like I said earlier, profanity is only in the beholder, logically the context. Sad, Sad (shaking head at your judgement)

Ringgold33 wrote - "Christ who cares,"

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Nah, not a cry out to Christ, might as well be using the F bomb, or another curse word. All make the statement trashy, but using Christ like that is inexcusable. But you know what, whatever helps you sleep at night.

BTW...look back at my post, I never commented on Mrs Craft. What I said was about you. Its just not safe to have children around people that use such language. You used it in a public forum, so its just second nature to you. Sad, really sad. (shaking head)

Tom Sawyer- really? now give you interpretation of how the lord's name is spoken in vain. Is it a mere cry out to him as was used, or using his name in such a method as to announce disbelief. Or does your small mind not comprehend the point. Once again you failed to give any reason and quoted the bible in your defense to disagree. As for Ms. Craft, Deut. 22-11 do not wear clothes of two different woven fabrics. depending on what verse and translation I can play this game all you want. In the secular matter of course you have still failed to give a reason besides your rants.

sassyone-thank you for actually putting together a logical defense instead of attacking a made up name on the internet, I look forward to conversations in the future.

ladybug, what image? this is an anonymous comment post. The image you are suggested is different from an image of obscenities in public. Last time I checked rudeness was tolerated by law where as drunk in public...well, not so much. I am leaving my comments right here because I was just addressing the one idiot that couldn't respond to a secular matter in an educated way but instead chose to bible verses because they apparently can sit in judgement over whoever they wish, so I addressed as they were.

ringgold 33:

Just out of curiousity is your idea of taking care of your image calling people a joke, or retarded? Sounds like you have the image problem, epspecially if you talk to people like that on a regular basis.

BUT I will say that does NOT make you a child molester nor should you lose your children (if you have them) because of it. You are just simply rude. There is a difference, since you are obviously confused about that.

And since you clearly know everything and you are just wasting your time communicating with all of us "retarded" people, I'm sure no one will mind if you take your irrelevant comments somewhere else.

Ringgold33 wrote - @ Tom Sawyer, really? you are a joke, to express your ultimate sheltering of your kids. And in the verbal context of how it was used it was not offensive except to someone who is obviously only deflecting in a defensive manner because they are in support of her without actually backing up any logical reason as to why you disagree.

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ROFL!!!! You're one sick so-and-so!

The Third Commandment reads:

Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. (Exodus 20:7)

Hows that for a logical reason as to why I disagree? Please don't answer as I haven't an ounce of respect for you or any answer you might give.

As far as what you say about Mrs Craft,

THE 9th COMMANDMENT

Exodus 20:16 "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

And I'm the joke, lol

ringgold33: How is it that you are aware of all of these events where she is behaving obscenely? Were you there? Besides, her children were not taken away because she was acting obscenely in public; they were taken away because of the molestation allegations.

What statements are you referring to from the LMJC that faulted the prosecution? I have followed a lot of media coverage and I have yet to see anyone- Arnt, Gregor, Franklin, or House make any kind of critical statements towards the prosecution--NONE, NADA, ZILCH!

Franklin blasted off a faxed statement blaming the media for not allowing the prosecution from getting a fair trial. (LOL that statement still cracks me up.) He also made statements critical of the jurors, for not coming up with a guilty verdict.

Arnt and Gregor in their interview with NewsChannel 9, only made reference to having ALL portions of the interviews videotaped as something they would have changed about this trial. This statement was made in light of the interview where the child was asked 16 times by the interviewer, Suzie Thorne, about molestation which turned up NOTHING, and then suddenly when the video is turned off, the child supposedly makes damning allegations about Craft.

House, who many view as the third member of the prosecution team, only made very, very brief statements to WRCB insisting he conducted a fair trial.

Perhaps, ringgold33, you are thinking of statements not from anyone from the LMJC, but rather extremely critical statements which came from "Butch", who was a juror in this case, who conducted an interview right here with this media outlet. This juror, not the LMJC, talked about how this case should have never went to trial. He also spoke of ALL members of the jury noticing that Arnt, the lead prosecutor, LIED, yes, LIED to the them during his closing arguments. "Butch" also talked about how Gregor acted out every time things weren't going his way. There's your criticism of the prosecution, right there. This didn't come from someone connected to the LMJC, but rather an average citizen, who devoted a month of his time for jury duty, who is obviously horrified at how this trial was conducted.

I am also aware of the immunity that Arnt, Gregor, and House have, and if you will review my comments, you will notice I never made reference to them being named in the lawsuit. However, if you think they are not subject to scrutiny and other severe ramifications, then you are dead wrong. Lawyers can face disbarment, if their actions are egregious. House is in an elected position so he serves at the voters' discretion. He can also be reprimanded publically, just like Judge Kristina Graham was recently. And if the Department of Justice decides to take a look at this case, things could get very interesting indeed.

As far as the this lawyer is better than that lawyer argument- I'll just leave that alone. We will all be able to judge for ourselves when this case goes to Federal court.

All four of the LMJC judges recused themselves from the Eric Echols case, without reason or explanation given. Why? And, furthermore, what makes the Echols case any different from Craft's case? House didn't recuse himself from TC's case, even though the defense made a motion for his recusal, so why now? What's so different? I smell fear.

@ Tom Sawyer, really? you are a joke, to express your ultimate sheltering of your kids. And in the verbal context of how it was used it was not offensive except to someone who is obviously only deflecting in a defensive manner because they are in support of her without actually backing up any logical reason as to why you disagree.

Sassyone, you really don't know what you are talking about because there are numerous accounts of her acting obscene in public. Also, the people in the court district are immune from the prosecution and therefore don't need to run from anything. Half of those people have reputations in tact, the LMJC already posted their feelings toward the case and took the stand on how they felt it was a prosecutions failure that conviction wasn't achieved. And to all of those saying settle and save your dignity, the lawyer of the county will make mincemeat of Tonya's lawyer in court. He has an impeccable record, and her lawyer cannot trash him like he usually does.

Freedom Watcher, are you retarded? literally, in all sense of the word, and you can go get sarah Palin to get angry at me if you like I don't care.

I wasn't aware it was a sin to be in a place where those beverages are there, since one is of a legal age and you can't logical present backing that its a sin, that matter is of an image, and the mindset of a negative headline. Does the paper say Teacher wins award, are Teacher arrested for drunk in public? You know, things you learn about Education in College.

gagirl11 said:

"To Sassyone: You have a lot of nerve!!! Kelli McDonald is a wonder Christian lady and is one of the sweetest people I have ever met. Her daughter came to her and told her these things happened, and, as a mother, she did what she thought was right. This was not a "witch hunt" for her in any way."

LOL What makes you think I have to have a lot of nerve by pointing out Kelli McDonald now has a problem with her image and respectability? This lady, who you describe as a sweet Christian lady, lied on the stand during her testimony, under oath, mind you, which is perjury. Perhaps you missed the part of her testimony where she claimed Craft never co-signed a power bill and then tried to claim that if it had happened, it was an administrative error. Ha! A quick trip to the power company during lunch break by a member of the defense team proved that document did exist and had both signatures--hers and Craft's. This was admitted into evidence later in the trial.



Her husband also committed perjury on the stand. He lied about meeting with Eric Echols, yet there are transcripts that showed 2 different conversations with him. Don't you find it extremely interesting that he isn't named in the $25 million lawsuit but Kelli is?

I'm not convinced that her child came to her and made any sort of molestation claims whatsoever. These molestation allegations appear to have surfaced with repeated suggestive questioning by parents, inept therapists, interviewers, and law enforcement.

I also find it thoroughly sickening that this wonderful sweet Christian lady spanked her child with a belt at which time I estimate her daughter to be approximately 4 years of age for her participating in typical, curious childhood behavior. Maybe you find her actions to be acceptable, but I sure don't.

It is obvious to me that you know her personally, and, perhaps are a friend of hers. That is all well and good. I don't know any of these parties personally--none, not any of the accusers, their parents, or Tonya Craft. But, gagirl11, it's time you took off those rose-colored glasses of yours and realize that there are many people who do the most horrendous things while all the while playing the part of being a good Christian. Is she one of those people? I sure hope not, but there's a $25 million lawsuit in the works, and she'll have ample opportunity to present her side of the story, but I stand by my claim that she has an image problem along with respectability issues. You cannot commit perjury and not have people make judgements. It happened to the former President Clinton, and it's going to happen to her. That's just the way it is.

Ringgold33, which is worse, drinking too much or using Christ as a curse word? I don't like curse words, but using Christ or GD offends me to no end. No way I would want my child anywhere near you!

Kelli Mcdonald and all the ones mentioned in sassyone's post appear to be attending the first hypocritical pharisees denomination of reciting Christian believers which have no affiliation with taking responsibility for one's own actions. Some of the same like minded people who lived some 2000 years ago were proud to have Pontius Pilate reluctantly send an innocent man to the cross. You may want to consider reading Proverbs Chapter 6 Verses 1-19

If one looks at the dates it certainly appears that Kelli was very well aware of the slanderous charges that were presented against innocent, young, attractive Tonya Craft. Kelli's husband told Eric Echols on tape back in July 2009 that he wanted nothing to do with the case against Tonya Craft.

How can anyone consider attempting to shielding the alleged stupid Sarah shower shaving slut? Or how about upholding Saundra Lamb? and Laurie Evans who allegedly are fighting to be the number 1 porn queen of the area?

If the U S District Court allows Tonya Craft the full $25 million dollars that still won't come close to paying for the 2 years she has lost with her children, every one of these people should be prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law. I know of many people who would love to be on that jury!

Ringgold33

I wonder did you offer to help a sister in need when you seen her drunk? Wonder why you were at a place where others were partaking of beverages of that type? Certainly you have never partaken of such beverages. Or could it be that you are a used up film star want to be?

This needs to be in the media for a long long time. She was treated guity from day 1. Lost her job, kids, life, etc. sheezzz.. Just skip it information if you don't want to read it!

I agree with Ringgold33. Sick and tired of seeing her and hearing about her case in the news. It is over and done with.

To Sassyone: You have a lot of nerve!!! Kelli Mcdonald is a wonder Christian lady and is one of the sweetest people I have ever met. Her daughter came to her and told her these things happened, and, as a mother, she did what she thought was right. This was not a "witch hunt" for her in any way.

But, ringgold33, she lost custody of her children specifically because of he child molestation charges--not because of her image or her lack of respectability because you happened to see her drunk once. My goodness, how judgemental and self-righteous you sound!

Hey, since you want to focus on image and respectability, let's talk about Franklin, House, Arnt, Gregor, Tim Deal, Laurie Evans, Stacy Long, Sandra Lamb, Kelli McDonald, Suzie Thorn, Joal and Sarah Henke, and Sheriff Phil Summers. I'd say right about now every single one of these people have an image problem, and I know for a fact that some of these folks have lost all respect in their community--especially the ones that are elected to serve their community. How much you want to bet that these elected officials are now serving their very last term?! Summers... pffft.. he'll be voted out. House--Ha! Ha! I'd like to see him run again just for the sheer entertainment value.

Or maybe, ringgold33, since you want to focus on image and respectability, you would prefer to talk about how all four of the LMJC judges have decided to recuse themselves from the Eric Echols case (Craft's private investigator), without any sort of explanation whatsoever. It leaves the distinct impression that they are all running for cover and I suspect for good reason.

I hope Tonya Craft regains full custody of her children because she should have never lost them in the first place.

I also hope that every defendant named in the $25 million federal lawsuit has to answer for their actions because these are the people responsible for Ms. Craft losing custody of her children--not, ringgold33, because you happened to see her drunk once at a community event.

Christ who cares, I am sick of seeing her in the Media, if she would have taken care of her image and acted respectable in her community, completely outside of the child molestation charges, she may not have ever had this problem. Saw her several years ago drunk as a skunk at a community event. I wouldn't want my kids around her either. Publish something useful to the community.